romney won hands down. body language alone. if you looked at the debate. president obama looked down a lot. and looking at his notes. what about the body language. >> i thought body language. styliically romm rom was the winner. no one disputes that. but the substance issues, when you look at the fact that mitt romney got out there and said, he's not going to voucher -- he will voucherize medicare and cut taxes. what i find interesting is that mitt romney has been all over the place in what he. >> no, he hasn't. >> you can't trust him. just yesterday he said something else. when it comes down to it. they are issues that are challenging. >> for obama to go back to the bill clinton days. bill clinton worked with republicanns, president obama has not. >> he tried to work with republicans. >> one more question i want to ask you both. >> sure. >> what about the undecided vores? that is what they aimed for. who won the undecided vote. >> mitt romney did. independents are result oriented and mitt romney said this is how it worked in the past and going to be done.